My recent recorded "Does God Exist?" debate (held on August 19, 2012 vs. Dr. Ronda Chervin) which was recorded for a special episode of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast is now available on Youtube. A remastered high-quality downloadable and streamable audio-only file is scheduled to be released as a podcast on the first Wednesday of September. This was my second recorded debate of this kind.
Dr. Chervin presented variations of Aquinas' third and fifth ways in her opening statement.
I presented the evidential problem of natural evil, Stephen Law's 'Evil God Challenge,' and the problem of theological fatalism.
Thanks to all who supported, promoted, and watched the debate. Jason Gogola (behind the camera) and Karla Porter (the debate's moderator) helped with the organization and worked hard to make this happen. An extra special thanks goes out to my opponent, Dr. Chervin, for providing a good debate.
Comments, questions, and feedback -- always encouraged -- can be posted here. I will be participating in events like this in the future, so constructive criticism will help improve the quality of debates like this. Consider also sending e-mail and thanks to Dr. Chervin at ChervinRonda (at) gmail (dot) com. Feel free, also, to sound off on the event's Facebook page which still has ongoing discussion!
I will be dedicating some upcoming blog posts concerning this debate in which I will further develop the arguments I presented, restate and expand my objections to my opponent, and comment on some issues which were raised in the question and answer session. Stay tuned by following the blog label 'NEPAGodDebate' and keeping watch on my blog.
An interesting note which should be known...
At a point in the question and answer session, moderator Karla Porter was asking questions which were not delivered by persons in the live chat. For whatever reason, the chatroom crashed and -- while it was still open -- questions were not easy to read considering the blinding speed of the chat. In the future, we will ask that questions be sent via another medium instead. I appreciate, though, that so many people viewed! Crashing the chatroom is a good sign of interest :)
Information on participants:
Ronda Chervin received a Ph.D. in Philosophy from Fordham University and an MA in Religious Studies from Notre Dame Apostolic Institute. She is a widow, mother, and grandmother. Ronda converted to the Catholic Faith from a Jewish, though atheistic, background and has been a Professor of Philosophy and Theology at Loyola Marymount University, the Seminary of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, and Franciscan University of Steubenville. She is an international speaker and author of some fifty books about Catholic thought, practice and spirituality. Ronda is currently a Dedicated Widow of the Holy Eucharist forming a small community of dedicated widows. Dr. Ronda is currently teaching philosophy at Holy Apostles College and Seminary in Cromwell, Connecticut. Her website can be found at www.rondachervin.com.
Justin Vacula received bachelor's degrees in Philosophy and Psychology, a minor in Professional Writing, and the distinguished W.A. Kilburn Memorial Award for Philosophy from King's College. Justin Vacula is an outspoken atheist, activist for the separation of church and state, a speaker, writer/reporter, blogger, and host of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast. He is currently enrolled in Marywood University's graduate-level Mental Health Counseling program. Vacula holds leadership roles as the co-organizer, spokesperson, and a board member of the NEPA Freethought Society. Justin has appeared on various radio shows, television networks, and podcasts. Vacula will be speaking at the upcoming September 28-30 Atheist/Humanist conference in Harrisburg. His website can be found at www.justinvacula.com.
Karla Porter works with organizations that want to achieve employer of choice status, are interested in attracting candidates who will develop into employee brand advocates that drive growth and continued success, embrace diversity, desire a culture of innovation and excellence, want to enrich the community, and reward superior performance with celebrity. Porter is one of four organizers behind the upcoming NEPA BlogCon 2012 conference at Luzerne County Community College taking place on September 29. Her website can be found at www.karlaporter.com.
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Live online "Does God Exist?" debate - 8/19/12
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| Debate promotional poster designed by Philippe Giordana |
NEPA Freethought Society Podcast - July 30, 2012
For Immediate Release
Atheist activist/blogger Justin Vacula to debate Catholic philosopher Dr. Ronda Chervin
Dr. Ronda Chervin (Professor of Philosophy at Holy Apostles College & Seminary and recipient of a Ph.D. in Philosophy from Fordham University) will be debating Justin Vacula (blogger at www.justinvacula.com and recipient of Bachelor's Degrees in Philosophy and Psychology from King's College) on the topic of 'Does God exist?' for a special live episode of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast taking place on Sunday, August 19 at 8PM Eastern Standard Time. The debate will be streamed live at www.nepafreethought.org/debate. Karla Porter, blogger at www.karlaporter.com, will be moderating the debate.
Following the debate, viewers are encouraged to ask questions via Skype handle NEPAfreethought. Alternatively, viewers can ask questions and comment in a chat room which will accompany the debate. Viewers can also interact prior to and during the debate on Twitter using the handle @NEPApodcast or the hash-tag #NEPAGodDebate. RSVP and chat on Facebook at www.tinyurl.com/NepaGodDebate. Past episodes of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast, including special guest interviews and topical discussions, can be found at www.nepafreethought.org/podcast.
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Ronda Chervin received a Ph.D. in Philosophy from Fordham University and an MA in Religious Studies from Notre Dame Apostolic Institute. She is a widow, mother, and grandmother. Ronda converted to the Catholic Faith from a Jewish, though atheistic, background and has been a Professor of Philosophy and Theology at Loyola Marymount University, the Seminary of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, and Franciscan University of Steubenville. She is an international speaker and author of some fifty books about Catholic thought, practice and spirituality. Ronda is currently a Dedicated Widow of the Holy Eucharist forming a small community of dedicated widows. Dr. Ronda is currently teaching philosophy at Holy Apostles College and Seminary in Cromwell, Connecticut. Her website can be found at www.rondachervin.com.
Justin Vacula received bachelor's degrees in Philosophy and Psychology, a minor in Professional Writing, and the distinguished W.A. Kilburn Memorial Award for Philosophy from King's College. Justin Vacula is an outspoken atheist, activist for the separation of church and state, a speaker, writer/reporter, blogger, and host of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast. He is currently enrolled in Marywood University's graduate-level Mental Health Counseling program. Vacula holds leadership roles as the co-organizer, spokesperson, and a board member of the NEPA Freethought Society. Justin has appeared on various radio shows, television networks, and podcasts. Vacula will be speaking at the upcoming September 28-30 Atheist/Humanist conference in Harrisburg. His website can be found at www.justinvacula.com.
Karla Porter works with organizations that want to achieve employer of choice status, are interested in attracting candidates who will develop into employee brand advocates that drive growth and continued success, embrace diversity, desire a culture of innovation and excellence, want to enrich the community, and reward superior performance with celebrity. Porter is one of four organizers behind the upcoming NEPA BlogCon 2012 conference at Luzerne County Community College taking place on September 29. Her website can be found at www.karlaporter.com.
Podcast 18: Edwina Rogers and Kelly Damerow of Secular Coalition for America
Now available on Youtube!
Episode 18 of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast -- featuring my interview with Edwina Rogers and Kelly Damerow from the Secular Coalition for America -- is now available! The podcast was recorded as a guerrilla episode from the Secular Student Alliance's 2012 conference which I had spoken at. A special focus on Pennsylvania -- in addition to national concerns -- was included in this episode.
The podcast, in addition to past episodes, can be streamed and/or downloaded from the podcast's website at www.nepafreethought.org/podcast. Some podcast episodes are also available on iTunes and Youtube (visit the main page for all episodes). Subscribe to the podcast via its RSS feed, like on Facebook, and follow on Twitter. If you have enjoyed this podcast or past episodes, please share with friends.
Make sure to tune in this weekend for a very special live online episode of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast. I will be debating Catholic philosopher Dr. Ronda Chervin on the topic of "Does God Exist?" this Sunday (August 19) at 8PM Eastern. More information and the page on which the debate will be streamed can be found here. RSVP and chat on Facebook!
My interview with Susan Jacoby - Podcast #16
I recently interviewed Susan Jacoby for an episode of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast.
Listen to the interview via the Youtube video embedded below or visit the NEPA Freethought Society's website for the iTunes link or to stream/download the podcast.
'Like' the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast on Facebook.
Follow on Twitter.
Subscribe to the RSS feed.
NEPA BlogCon Updates
Yesterday, following the NEPA BlogCon Launch Party, the official website for NEPA BlogCon -- at which I will be speaking on September 29 of 2012 -- went live. I will be on the 'Using Media Effectively Panel' discussing the behind-the-scenes work regarding the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast. Here is more information from the website:
Podcasts, video, and photos can enhance your blog and make it dynamic – but are you using these tools effectively? Learn from experts in podcasting, video, and photography on how to best utilize your media to achieve blogging success. Panel includes media moguls Justin Vacula, Colin Devroe, and Mike Burnside.The schedule:
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More about the event from the NEPA BlogCon's 'about' page:
What is the event?
NEPA BlogCon is a (potentially annual) day long conference that’s so much more than your average “Hey, let’s talk about blogging,” event. If you’re looking to learn the REAL scoop behind what makes the blogosphere the place to be nowadays, then this is the event for you. Besides offering you a chance to network with your fellow post slingers, NEPA BlogCon will include panels and sessions related to blogging and Internet things. Don’t worry if you’re not old hat – NEPA BlogCon is for bloggers of all walks of CMS. Not a blogger? This may be the perfect event to get your start with.Who is the event for?
NEPA BlogCon is for everyone. Seriously. We welcome everyone to come learn about blogging and storytelling through the Interwebz. So, if you’re an Internet and IT pro who wants to network with other techy types, register! We’d love to meet you. Consider yourself to be a wordsmith with a passion for the publish button? Yep, we’re all about that too. Come join us!
There will be panels for bloggers with varying levels of experience, including beginner and advanced track sessions. In addition to a day of educational sessions, attendees will get cool perks like a rad t-shirt, lunch, other cool swag, and the chance to win some neat door prizes! Oh yes, and did we mention that it’s a great way to meet other people who share your passions?Who is running the event?
The event is being spearheaded by the “Fearsome Foursome.” Read more about us here!Why are you having the event?
We love NEPA. Sure, some may think it’s cool to hate on the 570, but that’s not how we roll. We truly enjoy being part of our community and we want more awesome events like this to pop up. After all, this is a pretty big area – why not encourage new, exciting, and big ways of thinking?
We love blogging, social media, and videos of cats enough that we decided we wanted to put our brains together and collaborate on something big where we could share what we love. Really big. Superfantastic big. And thus, NEPA BlogCon was born.
In addition to sharing our love of bloggy goodness, we also wanted to help out our community. There are so many wonderful organizations here that need our help, so we decided to make NEPA BlogCon a not-for-profit event. This year, NEPA BlogCon will benefit The Arc of Luzerne County and the NEPA Veterans Multicare Alliance.
Big ideas and big hearts in NEPA. That’s what it’s all about.
Upcoming Appearance - NEPA BlogCon Launch Party - 6/22/12
I'll be attending NEPA BlogCon's launch party which is taking place this Friday -- June 22 -- from 5:00PM to 7:00PM at the River Grille in Plains, PA. This launch party, free and open to the public, will be a fun-filled event with bloggers and writers such as myself from the Northeastern Pennsylvania region. Come for fun, food, drinks, fellowship, and free prizes! A $5 donation which will benefit local charities (The Arc of Luzerne County and the NEPA Veterans Multicare Alliance) is suggested.
As you might have guessed, I will be representing my blog here at www.justinvacula.com and the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast. I will be speaking at NEPA Blogcon -- the convention itself -- on September 29 at Luzerne County Community College - tentatively on a panel discussion regarding podcasting.
RSVP and find more details about this event on the associated Facebook page. I hope to see you Friday!
See, also, an article published in The Weekender regarding the upcoming launch party and convention.
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The NEPA Freethought Society Podcast -- hosted by Justin Vacula and Rodney Collins -- explores atheism, religion, and philosophy from a secular perspective. Episodes include topical discussions, interviews and discussions with special guests, and a debate between an atheist and a Methodist minister.
Podcasts are produced by Jason Gogola and are currently being released on the second and fourth Wednesday of each month in a downloadable format. Episodes announced in advance are also broadcasted via Livestream and allow for viewer interaction via Skype through the handle NEPAfreethought.
Access the podcast by viewing individual episodes on this page or via iTunes. Subscribe via RSS feed, 'like' the podcast's page on Facebook, follow on Twitter, and feel free to share the podcast with friends. Send comments, questions, and suggestions to podcast@nepafreethought.org.
NEPA Freethought Society Podcast #13 - Religion, Psychology, and the Secular Therapist Project with Dr. Darrel Ray
From the podcast episode's page where you can find the episode itself and links mentioned in the show description:
Podcast Topic:
In this episode – largely a conversation between Dr. Ray and the podcast's host Justin Vacula -- Dr. Ray speaks about the secular therapist project and related topics such as the potential harm of inserting religion into a therapist/client relationship, the role of science-based/evidence-based information in therapy, problems secular persons face when seeking mental health professionals, and how religious therapists can strive to not include supernatural elements in therapy.
Cast:
Justin Vacula (Podcast Host, Co-Organizer, Spokesperson, and a Board Member)
Jason Gogola (Producer, Web Director, and a Board Member)
If you wish to ask a question or comment on this podcast please send your email to podcast@nepafreethought.org.
About Dr. Darrel Ray:
Dr. Darrel Ray is an organizational psychologist, writer, and speaker who is the founder of Recovering From Religion. His four books include two on organizational team issues (Teaming up: making the transition to a self-directed, team-based organization and The performance culture: maximizing the power of teams), The God Virus: How Religion Infects Our Lives and Culture, and Sex and God: How Religion Distorts Sexuality. Dr. Ray has been a student of religion most of his life and holds a MA degree in religion as well as a BA in Sociology/Anthropology and a doctorate in psychology
Mentioned in the Podcast:
Secular Therapist Project
Recovering from Religion
Sex & God: How Religion Distorts Sexuality
Music used in podcast:
Artist: of Montreal
Song: Gronlandic Edit
Lyrics highlighted:
I guess it would be nice to give my heart to a God
But which one, which one do I choose?
All the churches filled with losers, psycho or confused
I just want to hold the divine in mine.
Upcoming Podcast with Dr. Darrel Ray
From the news release on nepafreethought.org:
Upcoming Podcast with Dr. Darrel Ray
Psychologist Dr. Darrel Ray will be appearing on a special episode of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast titled “Religion, Psychology, and the Secular Therapist Project with Dr. Darrel Ray” to be released this upcoming Wednesday evening, June 6.
In this episode – largely a conversation between Dr. Ray and the podcast's host Justin Vacula -- Dr. Ray spoke mainly about the secular therapist project and related topics such as the potential harm of inserting religion into a therapist/client relationship, the role of science-based/evidence-based information in therapy, problems secular persons face when seeking mental health professionals, and how religious therapists can strive to not include supernatural elements in therapy.
Dr. Darrel Ray is an organizational psychologist, writer, and speaker who is the founder of Recovering From Religion. His four books include two on organizational team issues (Teaming up: making the transition to a self-directed, team-based organization and The performance culture: maximizing the power of teams), The God Virus: How Religion Infects Our Lives and Culture, and Sex and God: How Religion Distorts Sexuality. Dr. Ray has been a student of religion most of his life and holds a MA degree in religion as well as a BA in Sociology/Anthropology and a doctorate in psychology.
The NEPA Freethought Society is a social, educational, activist, and philosophical coalition of non-believers in the Northeastern Pennsylvania region predicated on support and community.
The NEPA Freethought Society Podcast is available for free on the iTunes store and through an RSS feed. Listen to past episodes of the podcast on iTunes or nepafreethought.org. Support the podcast and the NEPA Freethought Society by clicking the support button at the top of our website and consider sharing the podcast with friends. Connect by following the podcast's Twitter feed and 'liking' the podcast's Facebook page. Questions and comments can be e-mailed to podcast@nepafreethought.org.
Upcoming Podcast with Dr. Darrel Ray
Psychologist Dr. Darrel Ray will be appearing on a special episode of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast titled “Religion, Psychology, and the Secular Therapist Project with Dr. Darrel Ray” to be released this upcoming Wednesday evening, June 6.
In this episode – largely a conversation between Dr. Ray and the podcast's host Justin Vacula -- Dr. Ray spoke mainly about the secular therapist project and related topics such as the potential harm of inserting religion into a therapist/client relationship, the role of science-based/evidence-based information in therapy, problems secular persons face when seeking mental health professionals, and how religious therapists can strive to not include supernatural elements in therapy.
Dr. Darrel Ray is an organizational psychologist, writer, and speaker who is the founder of Recovering From Religion. His four books include two on organizational team issues (Teaming up: making the transition to a self-directed, team-based organization and The performance culture: maximizing the power of teams), The God Virus: How Religion Infects Our Lives and Culture, and Sex and God: How Religion Distorts Sexuality. Dr. Ray has been a student of religion most of his life and holds a MA degree in religion as well as a BA in Sociology/Anthropology and a doctorate in psychology.
The NEPA Freethought Society is a social, educational, activist, and philosophical coalition of non-believers in the Northeastern Pennsylvania region predicated on support and community.
The NEPA Freethought Society Podcast is available for free on the iTunes store and through an RSS feed. Listen to past episodes of the podcast on iTunes or nepafreethought.org. Support the podcast and the NEPA Freethought Society by clicking the support button at the top of our website and consider sharing the podcast with friends. Connect by following the podcast's Twitter feed and 'liking' the podcast's Facebook page. Questions and comments can be e-mailed to podcast@nepafreethought.org.
NEPA Freethought Society Podcast Episode 12 - Practical Strategies to Combat Faith - with Dr. Peter Boghossian
Episode 12 of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast is now available! Below is information copied directly from the podcast's page:
Podcast Topic:
The episode – largely a discussion between Dr. Boghossian and the podcast's host Justin Vacula – covers three interrelated topics: what religious faith means and why it is, as Boghossian calls it, a cognitive sickness and pretending to know something you don't know; how all types of people can effectively engage persons of faith; and how individuals can be effective agents of change in the secular movement and beyond.
Cast:
Justin Vacula (Podcast Host, Co-Organizer, Spokesperson, and a Board Member)
Jason Gogola (Producer, Web Director, and a Board Member)
If you wish to ask a question or comment on this podcast please send your email to podcast@nepafreethought.org
About Dr. Peter Boghossian:
Dr. Peter Boghossian is a faculty member of the Philosophy Department at Portland State University in Portland, Oregon. He has been called the Christopher Hitchens of the Northwest, has published various controversial articles, given even more controversial public lectures, and is an outspoken critic of faith. Peter’s podcasts, and lectures are free to download from Philosophy News. You can follow Peter on Twitter @peterboghossian.
Mentioned in the Podcast:
The Skeptics Society and Skeptic Magazine
Michael Shermer's “Why People Believe Weird Things”
Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science
Richard Dawkins' “Viruses of the Mind”
Sean Faircloth's “Attack of the Theocrats”
Sam Harris' Project Reason
Daniel Dennett's “Breaking the Spell”
Center for Inquiry
Dutch symphonic metal band Epica
Star Trek: The Next Generation “Who Watches the Watchers”
Malcontent's Gambit Podcast
“The Internet: Where religions come to die” [Thunderf00t]
Music used in podcast:
Artist: Elliot Smith
Song: Pitseleh
Lyrics highlighted:
You say that God makes problems just to see what you can stand before you do as the devil pleases. Give up the thing you love. No one deserves it.
NEPA Freethought Society Podcast - Episode 11 - Interview with Ethereal Collapse
Episode 11 of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast is now available in either video or audio format!
Follow this link for the podcast through your method of choice.
Podcast Topic:
Joining us for this podcast -- hailing from Wilkes-Barre, PA -- are members of the melodic death metal band Ethereal Collapse. We discuss themes of philosophy which are present in their music and talk about the band in general.
Cast:
Justin Vacula (Podcast Host, Co-Organizer, Spokesperson, and a Board Member)
Rodney Collins (Founder, Organizer, and Board Chairman)
Jason Gogola (Producer, Web Director, and a Board Member)
If you wish to ask a question or comment on this podcast please send your email to podcast@nepafreethought.org
Ethereal Collapse members on this podcast:
Ryan Klubeck (Guitar, Vocals)
Ken Huber (Guitar)
Nick Durcik (Bass)
Matt Rodriguez (Drums)
Related Links:
Like them on Facebook.
Become a fan on ReverbNation.
View their videos on Youtube.
NEPA Freethought Society Podcast - Episode 10
Episode 10 of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast -- Religion and the Workplace -- hosted by yours truly with the help of Rodney Collins -- founder and board chairman of the NEPA Freethought Society -- is now available! View the episode on the NEPA Freethought Society's website and feel free to listen to past episodes,
Our special guest for this episode is Karla Porter who, according to her website, "works with organizations that want to achieve employer of choice status, are interested in attracting candidates who will develop into employee brand advocates that drive growth and continued success, embrace diversity, desire a culture of innovation and excellence, want to enrich the community and reward superior performance with celebrity."
The NEPA Freethought Society Podcast is downloadable for free on the iTunes store, through the NEPA Freethought Society's website, and has an associated RSS feed. 'Like' the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast's page on Facebook, follow on Twitter at @NEPApodcast, and please share the podcast with friends. You may financially support the podcast by clicking the donate button on the top of the NEPA Freethought Society's website.
Peter Boghossian to appear on NEPA Freethought Society Podcast
Boghossian will be discussing practical strategies that listeners can use to combat faith and promote reason and rationality. He will be specifically addressing effective strategies to challenge faith-based claims, discussing critical thinking and faith in prisons, and explaining effective ways for persons to engage people of faith.
This episode won't be live to allow for viewer questions during recording, but fans of the podcast may submit questions prior to recording and we'll try to address them (feel free to leave questions in the comment section of this post).
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More information about the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast:
The NEPA Freethought Society Podcast is downloadable for free on the iTunes store, through the NEPA Freethought Society's website, and has an associated RSS feed. 'Like' the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast's page on Facebook, follow on Twitter at @NEPApodcast, and please share the podcast with friends. You may financially support the podcast by clicking the donate button on the top of the NEPA Freethought Society's website.
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More information about Peter Boghossian, from his bio:
Peter’s main focus is bringing the tools of professional philosophers to people in a wide variety of contexts. Peter has a teaching pedigree spanning more than 20 years and 30 thousand students--in prisons, hospitals, public and private schools, seminaries, colleges and universities, Fortune 100 companies and small businesses. His fundamental objective is to teach people how to think through what often seem to be intractable problems.
Peter’s primary research areas are critical thinking and moral reasoning. His doctoral research studies, funded by the State of Oregon and supported by the Oregon Department of Corrections, consisted of using the Socratic method to help prison inmates to increase their critical thinking and moral reasoning abilities and to increase their desistance to criminal behavior. Peter’s publications can be found in Diálogos, Education Policy Analysis Archives, The Clearing House: Educational Research Controversy and Practices, The Radical Academy; Offender Programs Report, Teaching Philosophy, Corrections Today, Informal Logic, Journal of Philosophy of Education, Educational Philosophy and Theory, Inside Higher Ed, Essays in Philosophy, Federal Probation Journal, and the Journal of Correctional Education. If you’d like to learn more about his scholarship, his podcast interview with Philosophy News is a great place to start.
His work has been noted on The Huffington Post and other media outlets; he’s been an invited guest on the Lars Larson show, and advocated via social media by the Executive Director of the Skeptic Society, Michael Shermer, and bestselling author and head of Project Reason, Sam Harris.
Peter was a Councilman for the State of Oregon (LSTA), an advisor to Sockeye Magazine and The Weekly Alibi, wrote national philosophy curricula for the University of Phoenix and was a research fellow for the National Center for Teaching and Learning. Currently, he is the Chairman of the Prison Advisory Committee for Columbia River Correctional Institution, teaches critical thinking and ethics at Portland State University, is an Affiliate Research Assistant Professor Oregon Health Science University, is Co-Director of PSU’s Center for Correction’s Research, and serves on the board of directors of various non-profits.
When he’s not working, Peter spends time with his family, practices jiu jutsu, watches science fiction movies and television (Stargate Universe, Battlestar Galactica, Misfits), and plays computer games (Star Craft 2, Fallout 3, Skyrim).
You can follow Peter on Twitter @peterboghossian. If you want to join Peter’s mailing list and learn about his upcoming public lectures and debates, from your mobile phone text “DELUSION” + your email address to 22333.
A response to those who claim offense
(A fitting poster for this post...)It's often the case that people are quick to respond to content or people they happen to disagree with with a 'sit down and shut up' mentality in which they believe that certain ideas just shouldn't be discussed. Is this an appropriate attitude to have? In a pluralistic society, I argue, claiming offense and objecting to content -- simply because you happen not to like it -- is unacceptable and immature.
Possible motivations and problems
I believe that many assertions of offense and general objections to my work are hasty responses that are the result of an emotional reaction and a belief that cherished ideas should not be dissected. In a world with so much disagreement and sequestering of ourselves -- despite, ironically enough, the openness of the internet and the increased exposure people can have to different ideas -- perhaps some believe that we should just 'live and let live' and mainly communicate with those who are like-minded. Not enough exposure, perhaps, might be a reason that people have such a difficult time dealing with ideas foreign to them.
Perhaps a hellish mix of misplaced or misunderstood aims of diversity and truth relativism (the notion that truth is relative from individual to individual and/or that there is no such thing as objective truth) has unfortunately led people to believe that everyone can be right about any issue, all beliefs are ultimately one's opinion, and that it's simply just rude to disagree with anyone. Ironically, some efforts to 'draw people together' and find common ground seem to be responsible for causing much harm and intellectual suicide. In the name of what some consider to be tolerance and diversity, some have blissfully placed their brains in blenders and have not achieved a degree of tolerance worth wanting.
Additionally, the ever-returning and often mentioned [in this blog, at least] 'right to opinion' might also be a culprit serving as a barrier to honest discussion...
Cognitive dissonance, the sensation/experience felt when one happens to seemingly hold contradictory beliefs or becomes exposed to information which runs counter to their beliefs, can be difficult to deal with. It seems quite easy to 'throw up the smokescreens' and become defensive when our beliefs challenged and it seems quite difficult to overcome the easy response and, instead of becoming defensive, 'step back' from our ideas and even do so much as to consider another point of view. Perhaps cognitive dissonance is responsible for the attitude of deflection of criticisms?
The general responses of "you shouldn't talk about that" or "you should just leave these ideas alone" that often seem to come from those who object with offense to certain content are often quite short and without explanation or argument (and hopefully I'm not a victim of confirmation bias here). When these comments are made, I typically ask for persons to explain their reasoning and elaborate, but they fail to do so. If persons respond -- after I defend myself, expand on my ideas, and further clarify my reasoning pertaining to the issue at hand -- original objectors continue to, instead of responding to the content, object to a discussion about certain matters even taking place (while the discussion is taking place).
This 'methodology' is not a sign -- it seems -- of an honest discussion in which the objecting party is looking for a conversation; this seems to be characteristic of a hit-and-run tactic paired with an insufficient concern for truth and intellectual laziness. One would expect that people who were willing enough to object to my work would be willing to have an honest discussion if they were willing enough to post and were genuinely offended [perhaps seeking to squelch the content], but this unfortunately isn't the case. Perhaps I am giving people too much credit.
Some philosophy might save us...
In his book "The View From Nowhere," philosopher Thomas Nagel explains how difficult it can be to critically self-reflect and how impossible it might be to 'separate ourselves' from our beliefs. A state of total objectivity -- it appears -- is something we just can't reach as human beings, but we can try our best to work toward objectivity - and with good reason. Self-reflection and a willingness to modify our beliefs -- provided good reason, argument, and evidence are presented that justifies a cognitive shift -- is essential to being an intellectually-minded individual and perhaps even a productive mature functioning member of society.
What good would life be if we never amended our beliefs or realized our errs? We all make mistakes or might happen to hold incorrect ideas for whatever reasons (often no fault of our own) and that's nothing to be ashamed of. What should be considered shameful, though, is an unwillingness to amend our beliefs and a closed-minded attitude. Realizing that our beliefs were inaccurate and considering a new perspective shouldn't be something that we avoid, but rather should be something we embrace. I call this progress, openness, and a concern for truth.
In a 'marketplace of ideas' and a pluralistic society that is not filled with 'yes men' or 'yes woman,' some people will feel offended or provoked by certain content because people regard their beliefs as important self-identifying characteristics and view 'threats' to their beliefs as character attacks. Someone is bound to claim offense when issues such as worldviews and religions are being scrutinized. Before claiming offense, though, or acting in an immature fashion -- especially when content with quite a mild tone is being considered -- people ought to realize that disagreement is inevitable. Just about anyone can claim to be offended by just about anything, so the questions that should be considered are "Is it reasonable for me to claim offense?" and "What should the response be to content I consider offensive?" before people jump to unreasonable conclusions and make unreasonable demands for others to cease expressing their ideas.
One person's 'offensive content' is the next person's 'telling it like it is' that is, as some may see it, quite uncontroversial. With a sea of differing value judgments and barometers as to what is appropriate and inappropriate, it seems futile to protest to anything and everything out there. While there may be no objective standard for what can be considered offensive (mainly, perhaps, because this is an issue of personal taste and there is no quick-and-dirty way to distinguish 'offensive' from 'not offensive'), we shouldn't despair. The proper reaction to what one considers to be offensive, then, considering mentioned issues, is a mature attitude in which one realizes that people will happen to disagree - and disagreement shouldn't force or otherwise demand people to cease from publishing 'any old content.'
Offense isn't the goal, but progress should be
It's difficult for me to identify a single or primary motivation -- if one even exists -- pertaining to why I do what I do, but I can say that I don't write with an intention to offend people, provoke, or make people upset. Writing -- what seems to be my main focus as far as my involvement in the secular community is concerned -- can serve many different purposes such as highlighting bigotry, inspiring people to work toward change, and helping people to understand where certain people are 'coming from' outside of the quick soundbytes and short tweets (although these can be helpful). I like to author longer posts, although they may not be read by as many people if the posts happened to be shorter, in order to allow people to understand my reasoning and further the conversation.
Self-reflection and exposure to new ideas can be a learning experience, a catalyst toward progress, an 'opening door' to new opportunities, a chance to defend one's beliefs and respond to thoughtful objections, and so much more. Instead of claiming offense and avoiding discussion with people, engaging oneself can be quite fulfilling and productive even thought it may seem uncomfortable. If all else fails and engaging with new ideas is too much to handle -- or persons simply just don't want to engage with ideas -- persons can simply 'take the high road' instead of objecting to ideas being voiced with a substantive response.
It seems to be more important that people -- if we were forced with one option over another -- live together than agree on everything. Disagreement is inevitable, so we ought to be able to respond to people and ideas we might happen to disagree with in an intellectually mature and honest manner. Living together, while it may seem very difficult, seems to be much more possible than a successful effort for humans to agree on all issues. Having honest discussions and interacting with people whom we might happen to disagree with seems to allow for our own intellectual progress and understanding of other people. Instead of glibly claiming offense and asserting that others should 'sit down and shut up,' let's assume a mature attitude and be realistic.
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If you're interested in my thoughts (and the thoughts of Rodney Collins) on another related and often overlapping matter, 'respecting beliefs,' please listen to Episode 9 of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast titled, as you might have guessed, "Respecting Beliefs" in audio and/or video formats.
New video episodes of NEPA Freethought Society Podcast available!
Returning from a hiatus, the NEPA Freethought Society is providing new and old viewers alike with THREE new episodes! Watch below:
'Respecting beliefs' (and right to opinion and taking offense)
'Religion and the workplace' discussion with Karla Porter
'Respecting beliefs' (and right to opinion and taking offense)
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'Religion and the workplace' discussion with Karla Porter
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Interview with melodic death metal band Ethereal Collapse
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NEPA Freethought Society Podcast: Episode 8
Past episodes are available here.
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NEPA Freethought Society Podcast: Episode 7
Episode seven of the NEPA Freethought Society is now available! Rodney and I discuss the recent debate I had with Methodist minister Rev. Marcelle Dotson and our proposed bus ad campaign slated to appear on County of Lackawanna Transit System (COLTS) buses in Pennsylvania. Listen and/or download here. We're also available on iTunes.
NEPA Freethought Society Podcast: Episode 6 [with Sean Faircloth]
Episode 6 of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast -- "Interview with Sean Faircloth author of Attack of the Theocrats!" -- is now available in audio-only and video format.
Podcast Topics:
This special event podcast features an interview with Sean Faircloth author of "Attack of the Theocrats!" and Director of Strategy and Policy for the Richard Dawkins Foundation.Cast:
- Justin Vacula (Podcast Host, Co-Organizer, Spokesperson, and a Board Member)
- Rodney Collins (Founder, Organizer, and Chairman of the Board)
- Jason G (Producer, Web Director, Board Member)
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NEPA Freethought Society Podcast: Episode 5
Episode 5, "Curious Bible Verses/Remembering Christopher Hitchens," of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast is now available in audio and video! (Link here)
Show Notes:
Podcast Topics:
For the December 2011 podcast Justin and Rodney discuss some of the curious passages from the Bible. Also, we unfortunately lost Christopher Hitchens in December. Justin and Rodney share some thoughts and personal stories of Mr. Hitchens.Please note that this show was actually recorded the day before our debate which was already released as a special podcast. So some of the content covered may be a little out of order if you've been following along with our releases.
Cast:
- Justin Vacula (Podcast Host, Co-Organizer, Spokesperson, and a Board Member)
- Rodney Collins (Founder, Organizer, and Chairman of the Board)
- Jason G (Producer, Web Director, Board Member)
If you wish to ask a question or comment on this podcast please send your email to Justin Vacula at jvacula@nepafreethought.org
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Sean Faircloth to appear on live episode of NEPA Freethought Society Podcast
Join us for a very special live episode of the NEPA Freethought Society Podcast with Sean Faircloth this Friday (1/6/12) at 6PM EST. Tune in here: www.nepafreethought.org/ Viewer questions will be answered at the end of the show. ---- From my Examiner.com article "Sean Faircloth discusses secularism and his new book "Attack of the Theocrats!" Sean Faircloth – former Executive Director of the Secular Coalition for America and current Director of Strategy and Policy for the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science – has authored a book titled “Attack of the Theocrats!: How the Religious Right Harms Us All – and What We Can Do About It” detailing a vision of a secular America, a comprehensive strategy to re-secularize America, the harm of religious fundamentalism in law and much more. Watch Sean Faircloth speak at the Florida Regional Atheist Meet: "Atheism: A New Strategy" ---- The NEPA Freethought Society Podcast is the official podcast of the NEPA Freethought Society - a group of atheists, secularists, agnostics, freethinkers, etc in Northeastern Pennsylvania. More information about the NEPA Freethought Society including upcoming events and previous podcasts can be found at www.nepafreethought.org. A remastered/high-quality version of this podcast will be on the NEPA Freethought Society's website soon after the live stream. RSVP on the Facebook event. |
Improved audio-only version of my "Does the Christian god exist?" debate with Rev. Marcelle Dotson
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